According to Wikipedia, revision of the 常用漢字 (Jōyō kanji) was first proposed . The jouyou kanji list is the sum of all the characters taught in. I already answered a similar question in another thread, so I will post it again here. The answer is quite long, however be sure to read through all of it, as it. Overview lists just contain the kanji without any additional information. The detailed Lists contain all the Information you need for studying and writing your own.

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I actually like the jouyou list and glad they cared enough to revise it some. Although I pretty much agree about its usefulness, you seem to have a lot of vitriol for something meant to be helpful. Instead, I read, read, and just read while picking up whatever kanji lies in the way. Kangxi Dictionary Xin Zixing.

Raichu The literacy argument is no longer valid. Also If you know the stroke order for radicals you can ignore trying to learn it for individual kanji a kanii of the time stroke order is defined in the radicals. That makes perfect sense, right?!

Differences between Shinjitai and Simplified characters. In the age of universal education, kanji using countries have the same levels of literacy as alphabet using countries. I plug each one into my dictionary and put the most useful terms into a vocab list.

The point of them is not to teach the language but make sure the important parts of the language for further education are included of parts of the language that are important for cultural reasons and scientific reasons. Jjouyou Traditional characters Simplified characters first round second round Kajji. I learned kanji well, at least of them so far through the book by Henshall, which, yes, is based on the jouyou list.


This page was last edited on 4 Decemberat Every word that is forced into obscurity just because it includes a kanji that is not on the jouyou list is a loss for the Japanese language. Due to my limited exposure to Biology in Japanese, I have to admit I have never seen this word before. So I stopped learning from it. Japanese writing Components Kanji. I think the point was that a lot of kanji included in Joyo are there because of their frequency in names.

Some years later, as a side effect of reading, I now know a nice percentage of Jouyou kanji.

Jōyō kanji

Another reason to ignore the list. Archived from the original on 14 February But the most important thing to note is that the number of Kanji is irrelevant!

I think that would be useful for creating most of a list, but it seems that some kanji might have been included for different reasons, regardless of their frequency. I realize the importance of context, of course, so I try to read and listen to real Japanese as much as possible.

Kanji lists ordered by JLPT-level, Grade or Frequency of use –

That there were surely political aspects and committee decisions involved is part of life. I sure hope not! A great writing, one which I agree very much. You have to pick the sentence with the word that uses the same kanji as the question. Vuredel I think the indignation comes from how ridiculously bad the list is and the fact that it affects us all who are learning Japanese negatively to some degree.

By the way, Mizuumi wrote up a Polish translation of this post here: Thats mostly all i use it for- gauging level and progress. Sorry pressed post comment by accident why I hate typing on a touch Screen kanui the Wikipedia search: They should be doing it every year. None of the questions ask you anything about a single Kanji in Heisig style.


I guess it would be useful if you were a biologist or chemist…. I could care less what they do with the jouyou kanji list. I never looked at the list as something to learn from by memorizing all the kanji from 1 to or whatever it is. Retrieved 25 October By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Imitation Song Ming Sans-serif.

Every few months i go thru the list and check off what kanji i know. The new list is currently said to have removed 5 kanji and added new ones, bringing the new total from to characters.

They learn it based on what their textbooks and learning materials decide is relevant. Retrieved 1 February I think its a handy and rather well structured list when u think about how vast and messy the giant pot of all kanji can be. Simplified characters first round second round. Now I know why the decorative windows in Korean restaurants look so damned Asian. High schools and universities started using the characters in their entrance exams since the academic year.

Clerical Regular Semi-cursive Cursive Flat brush. What Raichu says makes sense. Kanji documents Japanese writing system.

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